Feb 3, 2013 5:00am PST
and the democratic party. in terms of the debt ceiling deal, the fiscal cliff, the bipartisan senators who came together on immigration, which, aga again, that's kind of a rope thing in washington, d.c., but it's been absent for the last couple of years. when george w. bush was elected, no child left wind was a top domestic priority and you had a kind of gang of eight style thing. >> no child left behind just didn't happen. bush reached out to ted kennedy, and you worked the issue and -- >> sure. they worked on the recovery act. they want today recovery. >> they didn't work on the -- >> yes, they did. >> it was one of those ludicrous republican myths that obama didn't reach across the aisle. and ma myth is so foundational to a lot of republican thinking and i'm guessing to you and i it seems so divorced from reality that it's hard to even engage with, right, the idea that obama didn't attempt to genuinely attempt a bipartisan governing style. >> you can call it a myth. i think the proof is in the pudding. i think that this -- >> so you blame obama for the fact that there's this -- >> listen, i'
Feb 3, 2013 8:00am PST
thing. >> another important thing to say here is that sequester is not nearly as scary as the debt ceiling debate was. we thought the whole financial system might collapse. if we go a month into the sequester, it's not a big deal. it's going to be painful. it's going to be a big debate. it'll slow growth in that quarter, but this is something where actually my understanding is the white house thinks that this -- they will win this. that if it happens, that, you know, everybody will look back but the republicans will look worse and in the end they will fold. >> i'm hearing the same things, carly. they believe in the end you'll see the same thing happen that happened on the debt limit that the republicans will have to accept some new revenues even though they say they're not going to do it now. >> well, you know, first of all, i think this white house spends way too much time thinking about political wins and not enough time thinking about actually solving the problem. tax reform is a way to get more revenues. if we would close loopholes, lower rates, simplify the tax code, there is